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<generator>Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/</generator><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Google Sync now playing nice with S60]]></title><link>http://engmobdev.weblogsinc.com/2009/05/26/google-sync-now-playing-nice-with-s60/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://engmobdev.weblogsinc.com/2009/05/26/google-sync-now-playing-nice-with-s60/</guid><description><![CDATA[Sadly, no push email available over activesync :(]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[zephxiii]]></dc:creator><pubDate>May 26th 2009 9:00AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Google Sync now playing nice with S60]]></title><link>http://engmobdev.weblogsinc.com/2009/05/26/google-sync-now-playing-nice-with-s60/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://engmobdev.weblogsinc.com/2009/05/26/google-sync-now-playing-nice-with-s60/</guid><description><![CDATA[The nokia email app already allows email syncing with Gmail using IMAP. Works perfectly, apart from sucking the battery in 24 hours.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Bicou]]></dc:creator><pubDate>May 26th 2009 9:10AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Google Sync now playing nice with S60]]></title><link>http://engmobdev.weblogsinc.com/2009/05/26/google-sync-now-playing-nice-with-s60/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://engmobdev.weblogsinc.com/2009/05/26/google-sync-now-playing-nice-with-s60/</guid><description><![CDATA[As a N79, e62, and e71 owner, I am 100% aware of that. But email via MFE and exchange activesync is superior to IMAP. What is the point in having to use IMAP in addition to EAS when you could use EAS for everything?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[zephxiii]]></dc:creator><pubDate>May 26th 2009 10:11AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Google Sync now playing nice with S60]]></title><link>http://engmobdev.weblogsinc.com/2009/05/26/google-sync-now-playing-nice-with-s60/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://engmobdev.weblogsinc.com/2009/05/26/google-sync-now-playing-nice-with-s60/</guid><description><![CDATA[@zephxii  - Could you please explain what you mean when you say that "email via MFE and exchange activesync is superior to IMAP".  I currently use a blackberry device and I'm very happy with it's push email service.  I really like some of the Nokia devices but I don't know enough about their push email performance to know if they'd be a good purchase.  For example when people say Nokia uses Microsoft Exchange Exchange, do they mean that in order to get push email you must work in an office with an IT department that uses microsoft exchange?  cause if so this would not apply to me.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[MGD_drinker]]></dc:creator><pubDate>May 26th 2009 11:10AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Google Sync now playing nice with S60]]></title><link>http://engmobdev.weblogsinc.com/2009/05/26/google-sync-now-playing-nice-with-s60/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://engmobdev.weblogsinc.com/2009/05/26/google-sync-now-playing-nice-with-s60/</guid><description><![CDATA[You don't necessarily need an IT department, but you DO need Exchange-powered email.  Web hosting providers often offer "hosted Exchange" services.  A lot of folks (myself included) believe Gmail will, at some point, offer Exchange sync to their email.<br><br>Blackberries currently offer better email if you don't receive your email through Exchange, though.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[typoink]]></dc:creator><pubDate>May 26th 2009 12:25PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Google Sync now playing nice with S60]]></title><link>http://engmobdev.weblogsinc.com/2009/05/26/google-sync-now-playing-nice-with-s60/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://engmobdev.weblogsinc.com/2009/05/26/google-sync-now-playing-nice-with-s60/</guid><description><![CDATA[haha, put it short, BIS sucks because IMAP is halfassed on it to begin with. Push over EAS works beautifully, and more reliable as it eliminates the 3rd party BIS server. In addition, you can mark as read, delete, and sync other folders with EAS which BIS can't do (IMAP can though). What I mean by mark as read and delete, meaning if you mark as read or delete on your device, it will show up on your other modes of accessing your email etc. <br><br>EAS vs. IMAP, is just consolidating email and contact/calendar sync into one connection (EAS), which is more than likely more power efficient and uses MS Direct Push technology.<br><br>Though with MFE i don't think it can sync additional folders just yet, but WM can, and IMAP on s60 can as well. <br><br>I use MFE with exchange on my e71 and N79, it works brilliantly. If google can implement email with google sync (exchange activesync), then that would truely be great for PUSH and batt life. You could always add an IMAP connection for the same account if you need access to additional folders, then set them to auto update at longer intervals (like an hour or more depending on need).]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[zephxiii]]></dc:creator><pubDate>May 26th 2009 12:39PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Google Sync now playing nice with S60]]></title><link>http://engmobdev.weblogsinc.com/2009/05/26/google-sync-now-playing-nice-with-s60/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://engmobdev.weblogsinc.com/2009/05/26/google-sync-now-playing-nice-with-s60/</guid><description><![CDATA[@typoink - you say "A lot of folks (myself included) believe Gmail will, at some point, offer Exchange sync to their email".   On the GoogleSync website for S60 devices they state "Google Sync uses the Microsoft© Exchange ActiveSync© protocol". <br><a href="http://www.google.com/mobile/nokia_smart/sync.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/mobile/nokia_smart/sync.html</a><br> I have two questions:<br>(1)  did you know this already?<br>(2) Is this then a true push email service that will let you know immediately when an email has arrived and doesn't require some application on your phone that will constantly check the gmail server to see if there are new emails.<br><br>@zephxiii - please keep in mind I'm not an email expert.  I have a few questions for you:<br>(1) you use MFE (Nokia's Mail For Exchange I assume) Does this mean you're using a corporate email system or are you using gmail.<br>(2)  Is GoogleSync (see link above) a true push email solution for Nokia devices?  Will it notify me immidiately when an email has arrive in my gmail inbox without an application running in the background on the phone constantly checking the gmail mail server.<br>(3) You stated "BIS sucks because IMAP is halfassed on it to begin with",  I currently use a blackberry to check my gmail using IMAP, I assume it uses BIS (Blackberry Internet Service).  Can you please explain why it is halfassed,  how does it compare to MFE  or GoogleSync.<br><br>Thank you both for helping me with this. I really want to understand how Nokia differs from blackberry when it comes to push email before I buy a Nokia.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[MGD_drinker]]></dc:creator><pubDate>May 26th 2009 1:30PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Google Sync now playing nice with S60]]></title><link>http://engmobdev.weblogsinc.com/2009/05/26/google-sync-now-playing-nice-with-s60/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://engmobdev.weblogsinc.com/2009/05/26/google-sync-now-playing-nice-with-s60/</guid><description><![CDATA[i dont know anything about bis.<br><br><br>at this point m4e for google sync is not supporting syncing of mails, you can set it up on a compatible s60 device to push all contacts an calendar items.<br>if google at one point gives us the abbillity i would still use Nokia messaging(email.nokia.com) for syncing my mails, this is an additiniol app that is free at this point. Nokia messaging has html support in mails, m4e dosnt support html code in mails for now.<br>With nokia messaging you have a complete push email client for approximatally 10 compatible email accounts.(needs to be imap/pop)<br><br>i dont know any app that gives you push email contacts or calendar that dosnt continuosly run in the background connecting to a server.<br>in these cases both m4e or nokia messaging will keep connecting to the server constantantly.<br><br>the difference between nokia messaging and other push mail solution is that other services usally download->store->push.<br>nokia messaging downloads->push, so the mail is not being stored in a third party server.<br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[acizane]]></dc:creator><pubDate>May 26th 2009 4:59PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Google Sync now playing nice with S60]]></title><link>http://engmobdev.weblogsinc.com/2009/05/26/google-sync-now-playing-nice-with-s60/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://engmobdev.weblogsinc.com/2009/05/26/google-sync-now-playing-nice-with-s60/</guid><description><![CDATA[(1) If you are using Mail for Exchange (MFE), you just point it to whatever server supports the protocal. In the case of Google Sync, it will be google's servers.<br><br>(2) When Google Implements email over EAS (exchange activesync) it will be true push, this push is called Microsoft Direct Push. Current IMAP idle is pretty much "True push" as the emails will come through as the server gets them. Yes it will notify you instantly in both cases.<br><br>(3)I already explained this in my post. BIS IMAP implementation is halfassed because you only get emails, but in a half assed sort of way. True IMAP is a full syncronization of folders. If you delete an email on your IMAP device, it deletes it from the server, if you read the email on your imap device, it marks it as read on the server, time stamps are correct. BIS doesn't do any of that, as it is halfassed. Another stupid thing, if you dragged an old email from another folder into the inbox folder from you desktop client, it will show up on a blackberry as a new email with an incorrect timestamp, that is because BIS is halfassed. ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[zephxiii]]></dc:creator><pubDate>May 26th 2009 11:53PM</pubDate></item></channel></rss>